https://emmanuelchapel.my.webex.com/recordingservice/sites/emmanuelchapel.my/recording/4fde6a347e744f25a4fe1f500d824aa4/playback

Apologies, but there is no sound until about the 10 min 40 second mark. It’s still well-worth listening. If you ask Pastor Julien maybe he will re-tell the fishing story from his introduction!